Monday, March 2, 2015


   Let's face it, most of us think of sins as the breaking of the Ten Commandments, agree?

   Then Please tell me the why, of the following verses.

    1 Corinthians 10:31  "Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of                                               God."
    Now, all by itself, I may not mean to much to anyone, but keep on reading...

    1 Corinthians 6:19  "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?."

    1 Corinthians 6:20  "For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

    So,allow me (J.B.) to ask a few questions:  "Do Y O U, really and truly know that-------
Alcohol is good or bad for your body?  [Drink enough within a short time and you'll die from alcohol poisoning!] Yes Wine THEY say is good for us, but no more so than grape juice without the harm of alcohol! Look r4e3alistically at the cost to person, to family, to nation. In 2010 there were 38 ,000 traffic deaths, over 50% involved alcohol, but God only knows the missed hours of work and jobs lost because of it!
Proverbs 20:1  "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."
Proverbs 23:31 " Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright."
Note: The Bible has no word for grape juice, it's all called wine.

Tobacco: In any form can't be good, chew it and get mouth cancer, smoke it and get lung cancer, and even cancer else where, not to mention your heart and brain operating with Carbon dioxide and some 6999 other chemicals! Let's not even go to smoking of weed shall we? Just ask any non stoned, or even one s that are, parents, "DO you want your child using dope, or smoking weed? Most will say NO! How about Y O U ? If that does not move you, how about this, "The Drug cartels are running some three nations, and it's YOUR habit that keeps them financed, to bribe, to murder, now does THAT NOT, make users an accessory?  Think about it!!

Foods: "We are what we eat".  Now a QUESTION: IF...if Y O U accept the fact that we are all Created beings by the hand of God, think Y O U that He as our maker would know and then tell us what's best for us to use as fuel for our bodies? How many of us would take the advice of our butchers, for the best care and feeding of our cars? Would we ALL not refer to the manufacturer?

   Genesis 1:29-31  "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.  And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.  And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

    Note: It was only after the full earth flood, that God allowed mankind to eat CLEAN meat. That why for the seven pairs of clean animals, and only two by two of the non-clean life forms on the ark, with Noah!

    Leviticus 11:2-8  "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth. Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat. Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you."
   Deuteronomy 14:9-10 " These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat: And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you."

   Do not many of us eat shrimp, crab, lobster, clams and oysters, even octopus and squid?  So why not also eat crows, vultures, and the like? Do Y O U not know that God designed them for the solitary purpose of SANITATION? They are all along with the pig and all other scavengers, His clean-up crew, His garbage disposal units! Can you see YOU eating a sandwich mad with the breast of vulture, or fried RAT?

Now put these non-clean animals next to this verse....   1 Corinthians 10:31  "Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of  God."
   So how can anyone bring Glory to God, by eating stuff that's designed to be his garbage crew?
Therefore is is not a sin, to disobey God, and eat all this stuff? Is this not SELF PURIFICATION?

     Isaiah 66:17  "They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD."

    Genesis 13:6  "And the land was not able to bear them, that they might dwell together: for their substance was great, so that they could not dwell together"
    .Genesis 13:8-9  "And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren.  Is not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me: if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left."
    Genesis 13:11  "Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other"
   Genesis 13:12-13  "Abram dwelled in the land of Canaan, and Lot dwelled in the cities of the plain, and pitched his tent toward Sodom. But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly"

     You see, actions and choices come with consequences, as before long Lot moved himself and family into the city of Sodom, and the rest is history as they say.

  So it what Y O U are eating, drinking, is not up to His standards, and NOW that Y O U know it, it is a sin------
. Romans 6:23  "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

   Therefore any sin, by any one, will be the death penalty, UNLESS it is repented of., with a sorrow filled heart, and asked forgiveness for, they shall die while still clinging to their favourite sin! ONLY Y O U, can say your sin is worth dying for, right?

Now am I far too harsh? Well how harsh, is eternal death? Yes we all shall die, and all shall be resurrected again, but only the ones with Christ's Spirit within will not taste the second death, the death within the Lake of fire of Revelation's one time only use!

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Friday, February 27, 2015


  Can we just throw PROPHECY, either into the deep past, or deep into the future, just as we feel like it?  Because it makes us more comfortable, in the false hope of not being eyewitnesses to the tribulations, even though none shall even touch, as per His will,any one with Christ within them?

    No, we can't, and still think of selves as Christians, when we ignore His words:

    The word Prophecy is used but 6 times in the O.T  but 15 times in the N.T.....
Daniel 9:24  "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy"
    This time frame ended at the stoning of Stephen, and Israel as a nation was no longer to be saved, as the whole, but individuals, as all others can still come to Christ.and be saved if they repent and accept Him and His will! {Sorry this will ruffle many a feather, but truth shall set us free, from sin}

    2 Peter 1:21 " For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
    Revelation 22:18-20  "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus."
 Note: (J.B.) Yes people have put this off for years...but God knew this would become fact look....
   2 Peter 3:4  "And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." To W. Vieth.......


Nicolas von Amsdorf (1483- 1565): 

Martin Luther said: "My spirit finds rest in my dear Amsdorf"." {They were soul mates] Herzog, real- Encyklopedie, art: "Nicholas von Amsdorf".

  "He [the Antichrist] will be revealed and come to naught before the last day, so that every man shall comprehend and recognize that the pope is the real, true antichrist and not the vicar of Christ.... Therefore those who consider the pope and bishops as Christian shepherds and bishops are deeply in error, but even more are those who believe that the Turk"       [The Ottoman Empire, whom God used,were at the gates of Vienna, Austria, when the Frankish King marches with 50,000 man army to take M. Luther, thus he had to march to defend against the Turks, but nobody is taught that anymore , right?]

     " That the Turk is the Antichrist. Because the Turk rules outside the church and does not sit in a holy place, nor does he seek to bear the name of Christ but is an open antagonist of Christ and His Church. This does not need to be revealed, but it is clear and evident because he persecutes Christians openly and not as the pope does, secretly under the form of godliness." "Nicolaus von Amsdorf, Furnemliche und gewisse Zeichen," sig. A2r., V.  [Sorry can't translate German]

   Today, there are voices who cry, out in alarm, this Islam, is the Antichrist, have Y O U heard this? Yet the reformers have already debunked that way back in Nicolas' time! History not taught , we shall repeat the same errors!

In 1570 Flacius also wrote a tractate on the antichrist--- the prophecies forming the basis of separation:

    "The sixth and last reason for our separation from the pope and his followers be this: By many writings of our church, by the Divinely inspired Word, by the prophecies concerning the future and by the special characteristics of the papacy, it has been profusely and thoroughly proved that the pope with his prelates and clergy is the real true great antichrist, that his kingdom is the real Babylon, a never ceasing fountain and a mother of all abominable idolatry."  "Flacius, Etiiche Hochwichtige Urachen und Grunde."

GEORG NIGRINUS (1530- 1602) Evangelical theologian and satirist, born in Battenburg, Hesse, Germany.
   "The Jesuits,....... { begun in 1540 by Ignatius Loyola, and under pope Innocent 3rd , to destroy all non Latin Bibles and to stop the Reformation movement. the leader 's title if Father General, and is commonly known as the Black pope, for the pope is always shown in white, whom gives his his "marching orders! But this "general" gives orders to all the other many secret Societies. J.B.]

....." claim to be to be sorely offended and have taken my declarations as an insult and blasphemy in branding the papacy as the Antichrist of which Daniel, Paul, and Peter and John, and even Christ prophesied. But this is as true as it is that Jesus is the Messiah, and I am prepared to show it even by their own definition of the word "Antichrist."  Translated from "Nirinus, Antichrists Grundliche Offenbarung," Fol. 6v..

Ibid: "This Jesuit further contends that the papacy cannot be Antichrist because the papacy has lasted for centuries, but that he Antichrist is supposed to reign only 3.5 years....But no one doubts to day that Daniel spoke of year-days, not literal days.  The prophetic time-periods of forty-two months, or 1260 days, time (1) times (2) and 1/2 time are prophetic and according to both Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:4-6, one day must be taken for one year, the Hebrew 360 day year. "...........
 (Antiochus 3rd., is a type of antichrist [PRETERIST] who came out of the Third Beast Greece, killed and roasted a pig in the Temple of Jerusalem  after Alexander the Great died]

........ And as many days as he raged and raved against the Jews, so many years shall the spiritual
Antiochus or Antichrist rage in the midst of the Christian church." Ibid fols. 28v. 29r.

Question:  Who teaches this today? The 96% tile of Christendom, that's who, and right from the Pulpits! Yet there is NOT one word of this tale that finds a fit in any. . . any Bible in print. . . today! However the World Council of Churches is now totally under the Jesuit control via the Free-Masons! Why think YE the why for this....?

Revelation 18:4  "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
[Come out   of what or whom?   18:2 Babylon means to babel, confusion due to deceptions!] 

    By the way, does the papacy fulfill this prophecy of 1260 days/years, of Daniel 7:25, and Rev. 11:2; 12:14; 13:5.?   YES!  It became a Beast, with its horn [of and for its fulfilled Political Power] in 538 up to 1798, when Napoleon arrested the pope, and gave its lands to Italy, all but its present 114 Acres.Precisely 1260 years! But since 1929's Treaty with Mussolini, they were once more given nationhood status, with most of earth's nations have a working embassy within it borders, and the Holy see has it seat at the United Nations!] THINK!
     This was under the order and protection of the last Caesar, Bellisarious, who gave him all the trappings and symbols of office and the ALL the popes, ever since have held the title PONTIFIX MAXIMUS, and under all the carved statues of the Caesars and the popes you will find the letter P.M! They have and still do today rule as did the Caesars, total authority, unquestioned!

What other did this treaty do for the Vatican?   Revelation 13:3  "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."
[This wound is IN THE PROCESS, of healing, it will not be fully healed until she again has political power, under the New?One World Order, when all nations will "speak" via their laws,forcing all to obey Rome's Sunday Law, worship......Revelation 13:15  "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
Please read Genesis 2:1-3 and then Exodus 20: 8-11 and keep this verse in mind-----
   Revelation 14:12  "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."    Please know that 96% of "Christians" worship on Sunday paying homage to popish law but ignoring God's Law! WHO I S ABLE TO SAVE GOD, OR THE pope? 
   Y O U must chose!

David Chytraeus (1530- 1600)  last of the "Fathers of the Lutheran church.

     " The lord Himself revealed to Daniel how long the four world kingdoms should exist, and how long the little horn [horns denote political power] should last. This little horn as also described by Paul in 2nd Thess., 2, where we are told that this anti christian power, the papacy, would be fully revealed just before the judgement should take place.".......

 {The Investigative Judgement began at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8:14 began in 1844, with the judgments of the dead
     "We know today that the four kingdoms have long passed off  the stage of action, that the two-horned beast of Revelation 13 and which refers to the same power can not last much longer {This is U.S. of A} , and so we are forced to conclude that day of judgement {for the living} is not far hence. ...This same though is given in 2nd Thess. 2:1-8 where the Roman Antichrist is again mentioned....Most of the other signs have also been fulfilled which our savior referred to in Matt. 24. Translated from David Chytraeus, "Ausiegung der Offenerung Johannis "( Explanation of the Revelation of John.)

John Calvin (1509- 1564)  Calvinists--- Presbyterian.

     "Some persons thin us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman pontiff  Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself. after whom we speak and whose language we adopt.... I shall briefly show that Paul's words in 2nd Tess. 2, are not capable of any other which applies them to the Papacy. "Taken from Institutes of the Christian Religion, " by John Calvin.

John Knox (1505- 15720 (Scotch Presbyterian)

    John Knox sought to counteract "That tyranny which thye pope hiself has for so many ages exercdised over the church" As with Luther, he finally concluded that the Papacy was "The very antichrist, and son of perdition, of whom Paul speaks." The Zurich Letters, by John Knox, p.199.

Please know: John Knox arrives in the very Catholic nation of Scotland, and the above is part of His first sermon, right from Daniel 7! Within his time all of Scotland became Protestant, unbelievable? Yet True!

Question:  "When was the last TIME, Y O U heard any sermon on Daniel 7 "? Come out of her, my people!

Thomas Cranmer ( 1498-1556. Archbishop of the Church of England. Anglican. [Today one can't tell where this leaves off and Catholicism has taken over!]
    Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of antichrist, and the pope to be very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures, old writers, and strong reasons>" (Referring to the prophecies in Revelation and Daniel)  Works by Cranmer Vol. 1. pp.6-7.
[Under the penalty of being burned alive at the stake, he signed a retraction, then with sorrowful prayers he recanted, tied to a stake, and burned alive> While being burned, he stuck his right hand into the flames, and shouted burn thy cursed hand, for being weak, the sang hymnals until he passed! God MUST have cut off all the pain signals to his mind, how else under this much pain, could anyone keep on signing, in place of screaming?]

Rodger Williams. ( First Baptist Pastor in America)   (1603- 1683)

     Pastor Williams spoke of the pope as "the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth, who sits as God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not only above all that is called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vassals, yea over the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God Himself... speaking against the God of heaven, thinking to change times and laws; but he is the son of perdition {2nd Thess. 2). In: "The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers. by I Room. vol 3. P.52.

   This is what the Baptists believed, and this was a Baptist Minister, yet what is it now, that is taught from their Pulpits today?  Run back to the Mother church, Rome?   LOOK....... Rome calls all churches her DAUGHTERS, AND SHE IS THEIR MOTHER!....look.....
  Revelation 17:5  "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. "
Please, please THINK!

THE BAPTIST CONFESSION states:     "that the Pope of Rome is that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the church against Christ, and all that is called God; whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of His coming. "CONFESSION OF FAITH ( 1747)  "There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome is any sense be the head thereof; but is that antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition that exalteth himself in the church against Christ and all that called God." Quoted in "All Roads lead to Rome?" Michael de Semlyen," p. 176.the first part:" Confession of Faith" from Philip Schaff's, The Creeds of Christendom, With  history and Critical notes, iii, p. 658 ,ch, 25> sec.6.

Now excuse me, please, but is this being preached from any of these pulpits? Yet are these maned persons, not the founding fathers of your churches here named?[
 [What Happened? Who are Y O U to sit by idly while being lied too?]

John Wesley (1703- 1791) Methodist.  Speaking of the Papacy, John Wesley wrote: 

    "He is in emphatical sense, the Man of Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure.And he is too, properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers... He it is... that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.. claiming the highest power, and honor...claiming the prerogatives which belongs to God alone."Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms, by John Wesley .p 110

Charles Spurgeon: (One of the greatest preachers ever)

     It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, as to what antichrist is no sane man aught to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. If there were to be issued a hue and cry for antichrist, we should certainly take up this church on suspicion, and it would certainly not be let loose again, for it so exactly answers the description
   It has been said, that IF. . .if the Pope is not the antichrist, then he has the worst luck in the world be so exactly like him.
He goes on: Popery is contrary to Christ's Gospel, and it is the antichrist, and we ought to pray against it. It should be the daily prayer of every believer that the Antichrist might be hurled like a millstone into the flood and for Christ, because it wounds Christ, because it robs Christ of His glory, because it puts sacramental efficacy into place of His atonement, and lifts a piece of bread into the place of the Holy ghost, and puts a mere fallible man like ourselves up as the vicar of Christ on earth:  If we pay against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors: we shall love their souls though we loath and detest their dogmas, and so the breath of our prayers will be sweetened, because we turn our faces towards Christ, when we pray." Taken from "All roads Lead to Rome. p. 205 1991.

[This Professor Walter Veith, Primary speaker for A.D. TV. {}  born and raised, as a Catholic, when he learned this he because ill, and called a Priest he knew, to come to his house. Then he asked this priest to explain these scripture in Daniel and Revelations, as it hurt him to the core! The priest dismissed himself, saying "I am not into scripture"! Here is a man, a shepherd of his flock, and saying he's "Not into scripture"? That like say a fish is not into water, nor birds into flying!]

[ Walter. goes on to say, look my whole family and most of my friends, were all Catholic, and when i asked them, they all turned away from me. Do YOU have any idea how much that hurts? So I asked a Methodist friend, who was a also a pastor, a Baptist, to come and explain this Antichrist is long into the past, to me. He did and can with an elder, and when I asked about the antichrist, be began with the Preterist dogma about Antiochus, and when Walter pointed out that he came not out of Rome, the forth beast but Greece the third beast, the Pastor jumped up cupped both his hands over the ears of his Elder?? and thus walked themselves out the door, keeping his members ears covered up. This brings to my mind this passage... } (J.B.)  

    2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

In closing,Walter goes back to the video about that Townhouse and explains what the Reformers had placed above the door in Stone"

The Babylonian Winged Lion and a man, King Nebuchadnezzar one one side, on the other side of the same door, we had a Bear with three ribs in its mouth and Cyrus the Great next to it, these two being first two kingdoms of Daniel or the Head of Gold and silver arms and chest of the metal dream man. All this above door 1

Door 2:    Let side: the four-headed Leopard with Alexander the Great, and on the other side we find the Great and Terrible beast with the ten horns and a horn with a human face in it, and a Roman clan warrior
All in stone, all in plain view, so that none should for get the succession of Babylon, of Medo-Persia, of Greece and finally the two Roman empires, one pagan and the other mixed Pagan-Christian..

It was this prophetic progression that made all the Reformers understand that this reflected the progression through time to show God's children, via foretelling, that when these things came to pass, we all might believe the word of God as truth. Sadly as on young German man said, "Yes I am  Protestant, and yes a I have a BIBLE, BUT ONE HAS A BIBLE YES, BUT ONE DOES NOT READ IT!"

TODAY? In Wartburg Castle, where Martin Luther fled for his life, is today a UNESCO World Heritage Site, beautifully restored , by East Germany's Communist Party yet! Walter and his party went through this castle on a visitor's tour, and for over one hour all they saw and heard was a all about St. Elizabeth a Catholic saint from the 13 th century.. All the walls were painted up like the Sistine Chaplin.Holy
Elizabeth this and Holy Elizabeth that, so when one man said I came here to see Luther's study , where he sat and translated the Bible into German and I am going to see it! "Not part of the tour sir , sorry"  said the tour guide!.Well after many visitors began to complain, he took them to where Marin Luther worked. his table top, and chair, and the whale vertebra he used for a foot stool! The contrast here was stark, form the humble simplicity of Luther's room, to that of all the huge rooms dedicated to St. Elizabeth, which was all glitz and  glamour, with beautiful stained glass windows depicting the life and times of Elizabeth, it was all as if they wanted us to forget all about Luther and Reformation!

   So I ask Y O U why, why is it that each and every site, that has a plaque, a marker, indicating some portion of a the Protestant past, have been greatly over shadowed if not totally removed and replaced with Catholic signs and images? Almost as if we are living once again under the heavy handed popes, who ordered the death of anyone who carried even one verse of Bible on his or person, was called a heretic and murdered!

    I also ask you, "Is it now time, to look at the Holy Bible, as the Reformers looked at it and its prophecies? If not now. . . .WHEN? Remember all books shall close at one's passing, and what's done is done, there no changing possible.!

So the ONE Question that needs asking is: "Who do Y O U trust and have faith in, God or your fellow man"?
Then act where your trust lies!

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Monday, February 23, 2015

Twin Pillars Reformation Part 3.

Romanism and the Reformation Books:

   " HIS SEAT: Observe the position of the man of sin, Notice the word ... , "Sitteth," and connect with it...., a seat, a word which occurs three times in  the New Testament. It is used twice with reference to the seats in the temple of those who sold doves, who turned the House of God into their house of merchandise and a den of thieves: and once in the sentence, "the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat."
    From the Greek word Ka8iz,w ( kathizo`--kath-id'-zo] comes our word "Cathedral"  or the Bishop's seat, meaning the seat of the "Overseer" . Plus also the expression EX Cathedra, meaning "from His Seat" thus speaking officially! There in that exalted cathedral position, and claiming to represent God, the man of sin was to act and abide as the pretended vicar, but real antagonist, of Christ, undermining His authority, abolishing His laws and oppressing His people."

   From: Romanism and the Reformation.
   " The feature of FALSE Profession reappears in the corresponding prophecy in 2nd. Timothy concerning the "Last days", in which the abettors and adherents of the apostasy are describes as men "having the form of godliness, but denying the power thereof" ..."

 2 Timothy 3:5  "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."

IBID:  "These men were not then to be open opponents of godliness, but, on the contrary, they would be great professors"  {note (J.B.) yes they would profess their Godliness to the public, but yet they deny God's power]

  They put forth two theories, of doctrines: Futurism and Preterism, Yes there is antichrist, yet far into the future, thus Futurism. The other is "Well he was Antiochus the Greek who violated the Temple, but he's long gone into the past-- Preterism! sadly some 96% of Christians have swallowed one or the other, yet neither is found a fit in the Word of God!


   "The man of sin,", like" the man of God", had a broad, extended meaning. When we read, "That the man of God may be perfect----
2 Timothy 3:17  "That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
    "We do not suppose it means any one individual man, although it has a definite article. It indicates a whole calls of men of a certain character, succession of similar individuals. A man of sin could only be one man, just a a king of England could only mean an individual. The KING, on the other hand, may include a whole dynasty. When, in speaking of the Jewish Tabernacle, in Hebrews, Paul says that into the Holiest of all, "went the high priest alone once ever year," he includes the entire succession of High Priests of Israel. That a singular expression in prophecy may find its fulfillment in a plurality of individuals is perfectly clear from John's words, 1 John 2:18 " Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."
   Grammatically it may seem either and individual or a succession of similar individuals. The context determines that it actually does mean the latter" .2 Thessalonians 2:7  "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way." In which we see this man of sin  [= iniquity= lawlessness] was latent, was already working in Paul's day [He died in A.D. 94+/-].
    "So, 'the pope of Rome', may intimate one single bishop or the long line succession-- a perpetual person. So "the man of sin."     from:  "Romanisn and the Reformation."

   The Vatican;'s counter argument was, "The man of sin, is singular but we have had many popes, thus this is wrong." However the reformers followed the Word of God very carefully and came the the above conclusion that it means both the singular and all the successors down through time, until the time of the end!

    No duration at all is mentioned in this prophecy by Paul, only the two limits!
IBID:  "ALREADY". the apostasy was developing, and it would not be destroyed till the advent, Christ's return. Paul's features of antichrist chronology reveal when it would arise {after the fall of Roman Empire] and that it would exist up to the second coming {Compare Daniel 7:26 " But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end."]

   Thus the two limits set by both Daniel and Paul, are identical, but the problem they have, is that both of their dogma's, Preterism and Futurism BOTH fall OUTSIDE both of these limits!  So who is correct, all the Reformers or today's theologians?  {(J.B.) I do not attempt to persuade, but do show the facts of truth, so each of Y O U must decide to buy truth or reject God's truth and accept man;'s truth!]

   Many people, especially those born from the 1960's on, think of Christianity, as  crutch! No it's NOT a Crutch, it's a Cross, because it's tough to be a Christ following Christ man or woman. As we are treated as outcasts, who believe in fairy tales.  c
    However look:"The Cosmos came to be because nothing came together, and exploded,:from
   From Creation:"Genesis 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

     He sits in the temple of God: The face of the man of sin is the face of the false apostle, the dark face of Judas. Written upon the wall of the temple, "son of perdition." The man of sin is as Judas- a secret enemy while a seeming friend--- a :familiar friend", yet a fatal foe who betrays with a kiss and a "Hail Master".
      Observe the place occupied by the man of sin-- the "temple", or house of God. This is not, and cannot be, any Jewish Temple.
   Do Y O U know this title "Son of Perdition," is used but twice, once for Judas, and once for the antichrist line of succession?

    What does "modern" theology dictate? In both the future (Futurism) and the Preterism (already in the Past) "Look to Jerusalem, and the REBUILDING of the Jewish Temple right? They already have begun a building fund, for this! Then when it's built, Antichrist will come and sit in it, right? This preached across the christian world by most, but thank God not all!

Romanism and the Reformation.
    "Paul, who uses this expression in his prophetic portrait of Romanism, employs it both in Corinthians and Ephesians with reference to the Christian Church. 2 Corinthians 6:16 "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people." In Ephesians he calls the Church-- Ephesians 2:22 :In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit." 
  " To Paul emphatically the temple of God was the Church of Christ. This is the temple in which his prophetic eye saw the man of sin seated. It is no person in a temple of stone, but a power in the Christian Church"

Question: "is this not sound, both Biblically and exegesis"?

IBID: His Character:
   " As Christ acts for God, so does"the man of sin," acts for Satan."  Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."

Note: Who is this dragon? Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
   "Christ and he are antagonistic powers: the Power of Light, and the Power of darkness; the majesty of Heaven, and the might of Hell. And as the Son of god humbled Himself, so the "man of sin" exalts himself. There is infinite self-abasement in the One, the Divine nature stooping to humanity;j and the infinite self- exaltation in the other, the human and the satanic assuming to be Divine. "He as God......
2 Thessalonians 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." ... or is Divine, or a Divine being. The expression indicates that the man of sin would show himself by acts and professions to be possessed of superhuman and Divine dignity, authority and power."Romanism and the Reformation."

   When we read what these reformers put on paper, their thinking Biblical was deep and profoundly thorough.


     "Observe the position of the man of sin, look at the word..."sitteth." and connect it with it.... a seat, a word which occurs three times in the New Testament. It is used twice with reference to the seats in the Temple of those who sold doves, who turned the house of God into a house of merchandise and den of thieves; and once in the sentence "The Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. {John2:15+, and Matthew 23:2  Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Moses being the Law Giver, indicating that Rome makes laws and or changes God's laws Daniel 7:25} This word "SEAT" comes from Kathizo-- kath-id'- zo, from which we have "Cathedral" or the Bishop's {Overseer) and also the expression- "ex cathedra" , or "from his seat", officially. There, in that exalted cathedral position, and claiming to represent God, the man of sin was to act and abide as the pretended vicar, but real antagonist, of Christ, undermining His authority, abolishing His laws, and oppressing His people.

  Eyes= overseer, mouth = teacher ecclesiastical.

Both are Roman."The self-exalting horn or head represented by Daniel is roman; it belongs to the fourth or the Roman empire. So, also, does Paul's man of sin, for the imperial  government seated at Rome needed to be removed in order to make way for its rise and dominion. It was to be the successor of the Caesars at Rome. The both have the same geographical seat."
Note: (J.B.) They both even share the same title Pontifix Maximus. statues and both have the letters P.M. engraved!
      " They have the same chronological point of origin: Both arise on the fall of the old undivided empire of Rome. They have the chronological termination: Daniel's little horn perishes at the coming of the son of man (Christ) in glory, and Paul's man of sin is destroyed at the epiphany."

Both exalt themselves against God: Daniel mentions the proud words of the blasphemous little horn, and Paul the audacious deeds of the man of sin, showing himself as Divine.
Both begin as small: inconspicuous powers, and develop gradually to a very great and influential ones.
Both claim to be teachers of men:  Daniel's little horn was to ha ve eyes, as a bishop, or overseer [ the meaning of the word bishop]; and that he was to have a mouth, that is that he was to be a teacher; while Paul assigns to the man of sin ecclesiastical eminence. A proud position in the temple of God, or Christian Church.
Both are persecutors: Daniel describes the little horn as a persecutor wearing out the saints, and Paul speaks of the man of sin as :opposing," and calls him , "The Lawless One"  Romanism and the Reformation.

Does not all this point to the then and the now, not to something deep in past, Preterism, nor fat into future, Futurism?

To sum up:" The two have the same place---Rome; the same period, from the sixth century (500's) to the second Coming of Christ in glory: the same wicked character, the same lawlessness, the same self-exalting defiance of God, the same gradual growth from weakness to dominion, the same persecuting character, the same two-fold doom."
    "These resemblances are so important, so numerous, so comprehensive, and so exact, as to prove beyond all question that the self-exalting, persecuting power predicted by Daniel and this man of sin foretold by Paul are one and the same power. Even Romanists admit this to be the case, and call the power thus doubly predicted the Antichrist." Romanism and the Reformation

To be cont. Part 4.

Thanking Y O U for your time:  Comments?  Questions?   John

Want to learn more? Visit your Seventh-day Adventist Church any Saturday/Sabbath at 9-10 AM. You just may find that Jesus can fill that void in your heart.

Other sites: www.amazingdiscoveriesa. org and find Reformation Rekindled Two Pillars of the Reformation. from which this is taken.

Twin Pillars part 2. of # 931.

     Continued from Part #1.

   "They all do meet in the Roman Papacy, so NO OTHER power fits all the criteria given in the Bible. Latin  is the language of the Caesars, and of this power. It is the ONLY Church that is for ever has been named from a city. The Papacy fulfills the first condition therefore. During that time the ten kingdoms were forming, the Little horn grew up among the ten. The Papacy developed synchronously with the Gothic kingdoms."
"Romanism and the Reformation."


   Paul's fore view consists of two parts:  First: A general view of a great apostasy
                                                              Second: a carefully drawn portrait of the power in which that                                                                         apostasy would be headed up.
    Acts 20:30  "Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples                              after them.".
FUTURISM: has this found a correct fit in God;'s Word? NO!  This says that the end-times Antichrist arises AFTER  the so-called Secret Rapture, thus Christ's followers have no worries about this nor the tribulations. Remember "OF YOUR OWN SELVES"  means out from Christ's followers these shall come, from within and among us!

   1 Timothy 4:1-5  "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.".

  " Here we have not only a prediction that there would be an "apostasy", or a falling away from the faith in the christian Church, but a description of its origin and character, Its origin was to be satanic; its doctrines were to be doctrines of devils, or demons. It was to assume authority, and to lay down laws and prohibitions. Prominent among these was the prohibition of marriage. Marriage, although divinely ordained, would prohibited, and meats, though created to be received with thanksgiving , would be forbidden.{(JB Fish Fridays} The substitution of an external religiousness, and self-imposed sacrifices, for true holiness of heart,." IBID.
   1 Timothy 4:2  "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"
  Which church forbids its "Ecclesiastic Members," to marry? Rome, right?  Foods? What about fasting for Lent?  Can YOU find this word LENT in the Bible? Or what about EASTER or Christ's MASS?

"This feature of FALSE Profession reappears in the corresponding prophecy in 2 Timothy concerning "the last days", in the which the abettors and adherents of the apostasy arre described as men "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.".Cont:..
  2 Timothy 3:2-5  "For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
Cont: "These men were not then to be open opponents of godliness, but,, on the contrary, they would be great professors."  Ibid.

Please remember, the power behind this Futurism will always appose,  but is  not a confessor! Yet 96% of Christians believe Rome and not the Reformers!


    The "man of sin", like the "man of God" had a broad, extended meaning. When we read "that the man of God may  be perfected, thoroughly furnished unto all good works," {2 Timothy 3:17] we do not suppose it means any one individual man, although it has the definite article. It indicates a whole class of men of a certain character, succession of similar individuals. A man of sin could be only one, just as a king of England could only mean one. The King, on the other hand, may include a whole dynasty.
When, in speaking of the Jewish Tabernacle in Hebrews, Paul says that into the holiest of all "Went the high priest alone once every year, he includes the entire succession of the high priests of Israel. That a singular expression in a prophecy may find its fulfillment in a plurality of individuals is perfectly clear from John's words: "
 John 2:18  "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

     Grammatically it may mean either and individual or a succession of similar individuals. The context determines that it actually does mean the latter. "The mystery of iniquity." [2 Thess.2:7] in the which this man of sin was latent, was already working in Paul's day.
    So"the pope of Rome", may intimate one single bishop {Overseer]  or a long succession of a perpetual person. So "the man of sin." can one or a long ling of successors. Ibid.

Note the counter argument was "The man of sin is singular, so It can't be the P:ope"  They also continue to say:
    NO duration at all is mentioned i n the prophecy by Paul, only THE two Limits.
"ALREADY", the apostasy was developing, and it would not be destroyed till the advent. Paul's features of anitchrist chronology reveal when it would arise {after the fall of Rome] and that it would exist to the second coming {Compare Daniel 7:26] when he would be destroyed.:    IBID.

Thus the two limits set by Paul agrees with the two limits set , Daniel . However both Futurism and Preteritism =[ anti Christ came out of the 3rd kingdom Greece, thus has already been, teaching] So which is the truth?  The Bible and the Reformation were and are the truth.   Let's go back and read what Martin Luther had to say about this subject,shall we?

     "Oh, Christ, my Lord, look down upon us and bring upon us Thy day of judgement, and destroy the brood of Satan in Rome.. [(jb) that will not endear him to this system, right?] There sits the Man, of whom the Apostle Paul wrote [2 Thess. 2:3-4.] that he will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, - that Man of Sin, that Son of Perdition [sentenced to die the 2nd death  Revelation 21:8  "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." , Rev.2:11;20:6,14; 21:8]  What else is Papal power but sin and corruption {(jb) then and still today, with rampant homosexuality, while puting up a sinless front?]  It leads souls to destruction under thy name O Lord!.... I hope that day of judgement is soon to dawn. Things can and will not become worse than they are at this time { (jb) Sorry Martin  but they did and shall get much worse still to come!] The Papal See is practicing iniquity to its heights. He suppresses the Law of God and exalts his commandments above the commandments of God"
"Dr. Martin Luther's Sammtiiche Werks" (Erlanger edition-- Vol. 21, p.339.

   [(jb) This is just my writing to you, of what Luther's opinion was at the time, but today this is called 'Hate Speech", yet I repeat his words, in love to and for, my fellow man, even within the Papacy, as christ said Love your enemies! Because no man can save himself, let alone Y O U!  I am only repeating known History]

    Now let's go to more recent printed words, in an effort to show Y O U , just how much things have changed here is Rick Warren's book " Purpose Driven Life" p. 205.

"Completion of our Mission, Today there's a growing interest in the second coming of christ and the end of the world. [(jb) NO! same world, but with a renewed surface made clean and new by the Lake of Fire of revelation. you find it!] When will it happen? Just before Jesus ascended to Heaven the disciples asked Him this same question, and His response was quite revealing, He said: "It is not for you to know the times and dates the Father has set by His own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
    When the disciples wanted to talk about prophecy, Jesus quickly switched the conversation to evangelism. He wanted them to concentrate on their mission in the world. H said is essence, "The details of my return are none of your business. What is your business is the mission I have given you. Focus on that!"
    Speculating on the exact timing of Christ's return is futile, because He said, "No one knows about the day or the hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Ibid:     If you want Jesus to come back sooner, focus on fulfilling your mission, not figuring out prophecy.                  P.286
      All the reformers said "Study the Prophecy"! but modern theologians say don't? right? So why this verse?
     Revelation 1:3  "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."

[NOTE (J.B.) Does Rick Warren not want to see Y O U and me, receive this blessing? Remember that Revelation without knowing Daniel's book, shall remain a puzzle? Thus is not all prophecy study relevant? Or else why this.....
    John 14:29  "And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe."
    Question, to me JB this seems an obvious question: "Does Rick Warren truly believe in Christ Jesus, not the "Cosmic christ?" Or is it just a big con, on his part, and a a way to make a very good living? Is this the why o f, "I will not allow Revelation to be taught in MY church?"

  Yet is not much of the world "Hooked" on prophecy? Either Futurism or Preterism, meaning the Instead of Jesus will come in the far distant future, or he has already come and gone, from Greece when he soiled the Temple by roasting a pig within it!  Both ideas come from a single source, the Papacy!]


   2 Peter 1:19-21  "We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

    Does not the Bible tell us to study the Prophecies? YES!"Ye would do well"

     MARTIN LUTHER (1483-1546) "Luther... proved, by the revelations of Daniel and St. John, by the epistles of St. Paul, st. Peter, and St. Jude, that the reign of Anitchrist, predicted and described in the bible, was the Papacy...And all the people did say, Amen! A holy terror seized their souls. It was Antichrist whom they beheld seated on the pontifical throne. This new idea, which derived greater strength from the prophetic descriptions launched forth by Luther into the midst of his contemporaries, inflicted the most terrible blow on Rome".  J.H. Meric D'aubignc's "History of the Reformation of the Sixteen century, " book vi chapter xii .p. 215.

    Can he also be wrong, as 96% of Christians say, this is not in the Bible? At this point, where are Y O U?

    Yet, no matter where Y O U are, at this time, THIS IS history, and it can;'t be undone, and truth will always come out!  WHY?
     John 17:17 " Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."

     Revelation 13:1-2  "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.  And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."
    Daniel 7:3  "And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another"   Please read all of this chapter 7..JB.

    Question: Who is this Dragon?  Read: 
          Revelation 12:7-9   "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
{Now tie this into that which Y O U have already learned.. So, , ..  who worships whom, on Sun -god-day, Sundays?]

                        A GREAT "CLOUD," OF WITNESSES:
     "WYCLIFFE, TYNDALE, LUTHER, CRANMER; in the 1600's , the 17th Century, Bunyan, the translators of the King James bible (1611)  and the men who published the
Westminster and Baptist confessions of Faith: Sir Isaac Newton, Wesley, Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, and more recently Spurgeon, Bishop J,C. Ryle and Dr. martin Lloyd-Jones; These men among countless others, all saw the office of the Papacy as the antichrist." P.205. 1991 "All Rads Lead to Rome", Michael de Semlyen,,, Dorchester House Publications.

  Yet, today they are ALL condemned as being in error! but look at their own words:
Cardinal Giorgio Salvadore spoke that this YEAR'S 1,981 ST ANNIVERSARY, is to be the Vatican's last in regards to waiting for the Lord to return to Earth! "We just feel that Jesus is not coming back, by the looks of it", he said, "It's been ages like He's probably flat out doing  other really good things for people somewhere else."
     Nearly 2,000 years ago, Jesus promised his disciples that he would come back again in chapter 14:1-3 of John. But having the ability to turn water into wine has it's ups and downs. adding, m"We all make promises we can't keep when we are drunk, Jesus is no different"
WOW! Is the the message of faith, from a faithful follower of Jesus Christ? Or one who follows another supernatural being?


3. AFTER THE TEN HORNS [another shall rise after them VS. 24] after the division of the Roman Empire
5 MORE STOUT THAN HIS FELLOWS (OTHERS) [VS. 20] more resolute.
, deposes kings and sets up others via political and religious powers into one office., as in #4.
6 UPROOTED THREE KINGDOMS {Before whom three fell VS20] Heruli 493; Vandals 534; Ostrogoths in 538 all A.D.] {Dan.7:8,20,24.] (Ever heard of these nations?)
9. He will THINK to change times and laws  [7:25]
10. time, times and half a time [ 7:25] (see Numbers 14:34- Ezekiel 4:6 One day for a year= 1260 years)

   Today most apply this as 3.5 years, and apply at some future post rapture date, yet how can we split-up, in sections God's prophecy without such instructions to do so????
11. Shall devour the whole earth  [trample it and crush it Vs. 23]
12. It shall exist unto the end [Until the Ancient of days comes  Vs. 22}
13. Dominion taken away.. [vs 26]

    There is NO other POWER on God's green earth, that all these identifiers can possibly fit, but the Little Horn Power whose seat is in the Vatican!


     In 1538, in commenting on the prevalent godlessness, Luther said: "I hope that day is not far of and we shall see it." "Luther's Schhriften" {writings} vol. 22, col.1331
   I hope the last day will not travel over 100 years, because God;s Word will be taken away again and a great darkness will come for the scarcity of ministers of the word" Ibid Vol. 22, col. 16

[(JB) Here I fully agree, even though we have a record number of preachers of the word of God, few there be that believe it in total, other wise none would accept evolution over Creation!] Thus I agree with Walter Veith, when he said, m"These days his words have been fulfilled!" And I say Shame on us all!


   HE sits in the temple of God:  The face of the man of sin is the face of a false apostle, the dark face of Judas. Written upon the wall of the temple, "son of perdition." The man of sin is as Judas- secret enemy while seeming a friend- a "familiar friend," yet a fatal foe who betray with a kiss and a "hail m aster."
     Observe the lace occupied by the man of sin-- the "temple our house of God. This is not, and cannot be, any "Jewish Temple".  This blows up the Pretorism teachings that this is all in the far past.

Note: The title "Son of Perdition" appears but twice, #1. for Judas the betrayer. #2. The instead of Christ --antichrist.


   We must keep our eyes upon Jerusalem, and for the rebuilding of the New Temple, and that's WHERE The antichrist will sit! This is what passes for Bible knowledge in 96% of today "Christian" Churches! How awfully sad!

    Paul, who uses this expression in his prophetic portrait of Romanism, employs it in both Corinthians and Ephesians with reference to the Christian church. In the second Epistle to the Corinthians, writing Gentile Christians, he says, " Ye are the temple of the living God."  2 Corinthians 6:16  "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."  In Ephesians he calls the church   Ephesians 2:21-22 " In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."
    So to Paul emphatically the temple of God was the church of Christ. THIS is the temple in which is his prophetic eye saw the man of sin seated. It is no person in a temple of stone, but a power in the CHRISTIAN CHURCH!  "ROMANISM AND THE REFORMATION"

   It this method not logical, as well as Biblical? Thus it is TRUTH, yet many shall reject it, because of ????  I was taught this for many years, or Grandma believed so do I!  Is that not a type of group think? When we face judgement, our record will speak for us and it alone.

    Ibid:    HIS CHARACTER:

    Just as Jesus Christ acts on God The Father's behalf, so to does the man of sin act for Satan. CONT:
{ In 2014 this pope spoke of the fact that many of his clergy, bishops and cardinals, spoke out for allowing homosexual, and all the derivatives, into the church. His answer: "Who am I to judge"?  {note (JB) guess he never read or understood Ezekiel 4:16-27!]
    Ezekiel 3:18 " When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."
CONT:: Christ and he are antagonistic powers: the power of Light, and the power of darkness; the majesty of heaven, and the might of hell. And as the Son of God humbled Himself, so the "man of sin" exalts himself.Cont:

{Pope Leo X111 in a Encyclical Letter June 20, 1894  "We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."
      2 Thessalonians 2:4  "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Catholic National, July 1895 {thus the same man] The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ Himself, hidden under veil of flesh." [And Y O U say?]

  Cont:    "There is infinite self-abasement in the One, the Divine nature stooping to humanity; and infinite self-exaltation in the other, the human and satanic assuming the Divine. "He as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God", or Divine or a divine being. There is no article here before the name God, The expression indicate that the man of sin would show himself by acts and professions to be possessed of superhuman and Divine dignity, authority and power." Romanism and the Reformation.

  [ Who can not see, that the Reformers were very through, and complete, in their Bible studies? Can Y O U dear reader, not appreciate the depth of their studies?]

To Be continued in Part 3.

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Friday, February 20, 2015

THE REFORMATION REKINDLED.[part 1] Taken from A.D T.V.'s # 931 Twin Pillars..

    This topic will be  a totally different "kettle of fish!"

    Professor Veith and myself both fully accept and believe that God has His own, in all of earth's religions, because in the end it is Jesus that shall judge, and not no man!  However, truth is truth, throughout the whole of the Cosmos, agree

      But what is truth?
      Man's truth, is not to be counted on, or else earth would not today have over 40,000 denominations, all of whom call themselves "CHRISTIANS"!  Would Y O U agree?  More latter.

     Now, may I ask Y O U, dear Reader, a question?  ARE Y O U a Protestant? If yes. . . .what are you Protesting?

     This, next lessons will take many of you into Bible truths, that may hurt and even anger you, but a ask to tighten your seat belt, for the sake of your soul, the YOU!
      John 17:17  "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
     John 14:6  "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
      Psalms 119:151  "Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth."

    There are NO other truths, regarding the Bible's Author, thus it the only reliable source for all things about God and the Godhead as well as Heaven, agree?

    Just as the Books of Daniel and Revelation, are written in layers upon bigger layers of information, just as a multi-story building's floor upon floor, so also Does the Bible expand a precept.

    As this whole precept, is directed to humans and their lives on this earth, it also get bigger and more terrible, especially those who reject Christ, or have a deceived view of Him.

    Before we go further, please allow me to give you my most humble apologies, for the hard truths that will follow, because of the all the lies, deceptions, and honest truth that has come forth from more than 90% of all Protestant churches. I Came out of them myself, and it was hurtful, to me, personally, that I was lied to by those who teach the Bible to us!

    Psalms 119:174  "I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight."

   Yes, there shall be those, who as I, will be hurt by the truth. Not only hurt, but very angry by this truth, but as I studied the Bible, with prayers, and help from the Holy Spirit, the anger left me, and joy replaced the hurt, I pray that it shall do for Y O U, what it, the truth of God, has done for me.
    PLEASE, be angry at me, but not at the Truth, because who enjoys being lied to?

     If it is truth, then its worth buying, and you've already read the three locations in the Bible that tells of the truth and its source, is none other than God Himself.

    Test all that I write, as I will not attempt to indoctrinate Y O U, the truth of God will do this, IF Y O U but allow it! NEVER, EVER, TAKE THE WORDS OF MAN/MEN, FOR THE WORD OF GOD, CHECK THAT OUR FOR SELF.

    ALL YOU'LL FIND AR FACTS, so I ask you to test these facts within the Bible, and if they are truth, then Y O U must make a choice right?

   If it fits . . .  buy it!  If it does not. . . reject it!

    I do not wish to trod on anyone, but remember "The Truth will set you free." John 8:32  "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

     Hebrews 4:12  "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

    Truth is not free, it cost time and effort to search it out. Yes Salvation is free, but it cost us something, our total self-reliance, upon self. As we can't make self righteous, by our own power, nor save self to salvation, for that we all, ALL need Heaven's help! Yet it cost's EVERYTHING WE HAVE.
   Matthew 13:46  "Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it."
   Is not your eternal life worth a great price? Yet money can't buy it, only obedient and loving service, sharing Jesus with others! 

   L et's begin with man's history, are you ready for a history lesson, few schools, if any still teach?  What you will read, please take it as a history lesson, and not an attack on anyone or power system. Again,  firmly believe, that God has His people, in every denomination, on this planet! He has His children, in every walk of life and religion on this planet!

    If one lives in ignorance, God winks at your errors, BUT If you know a truth, and you do other wise,'s up to Him! Acts 14:16  "Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways."

     So, What was the Reformation, some 400 years ago? Why did it come about? Is it still "Enforce" today?  More importantly, do we still remember the what and the why today?  May I ask you, "Are You a Pro- tes-tori?  Are not most Christian Churches still Protestant, today?
But if your are a Protestant, then WHAT IS IT your are Protesting about? It has been virtually eliminated from the face of this earth! Does this mean all those early Reformers died by horrific means, died in vain? Or did they have a very strong and valid reason, to fight knowing they places life in peril;?

                            WHAT IS PROTESTANTISM?

   It has both a Positive +, and a Negative - meaning. within itself. IF there was not a positive to its message, it would have died before it began!
PRO-- (for, in favor of) and testari  ( to bear witness) A true Protestant therefore, is a witness for the truth: That which is simply negation of error is not true Protestantism. A true Protestant will bear primarily a positive message. His attitude will be that of his Master, who said: "I came not to judge the world, but to save the world." John 12:47. {Aurther S. Maxwell, Protestantism in Periled, Signs Publishing Warburton, Victoria Australia.)

   Now does this mean that no errors, ever should not be exposed?  By that, I mean, how many enjoy, being lied to?
    So, what went wrong, in the Christian world, that made it necessary to begin a protest movement?  It was long  way back in history and it can be said that it ,began with...

    Augustine's book, "The City of God",: The theology of Augustine places the emphasis on the church as the kingdom of God, declaring that Christ was already reigning with His saints, and that the resurrection was of dead souls to spiritual life. The church was encouraged to assume the ruler-ship of the nations, and instead of carrying the gospel to the world, the church leaders began to seek prestige and power by political intrigue. The Dark Ages were the result.

   Thus the Kingdom of God found its reality with the church, from this kind of theological thinking. Look at the phrase "Dead souls to spiritual life," this is directly out mythology, and not the Holy Bible For today most believe, as taught, die and go to your reward but look.... 
Ecclesiastes 9:5  "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."  Genesis 3: 19's "from dust thou art, to dust thou shalt return."

Thus the Bible's narrative, of the Coming Kingdom at Christ's return was 'Spiritualised' away by men.
NOTE (J.B.) is the reason Cardinal Giorgio Salvadori said this: "The Vatican since 1981 was the last year they regarded waiting for the Lord to return to earth.We just feel Jesus is not coming back by the looks of it, he said, "It's bee ages like, He's probably  flat out doing other really good things for people somewhere else." The Vatican defended Jesus' broken promise {John 14:1-3}  claiming "He was probably drinking wine", at the time. "Having the ability to turn water into wine had its ups and downs" added Cardinal Salvadore, "We all make promises we can't keep when were' drunk. Jesus is no different." 
  I, John b. will that speak for itself!

  This theology began to bring many whispers of discontent, and among the first were the Waldenses beginning in the 1100's by none Joachim, who began giving clear Bible witness against this doctrine, and as he began to unfold the Prophecies of both Daniel and Revelation, he actually measured the Prophetic times period of "A time and times and the dividing of time" of Daniel 7 as 1260 years. Two hundred years latter can Wycliffe, "the Morning Star of the Reformation".He, like Huss and Jerome of Bohemia, was greatly influenced by such men as Joachim.
   The 16th Century 9 1500's) dawned ablaze of glory, radiant with the prophetic vision. Martin Luther, Calvin, Baxter, Cranmenr, and hundreds of others led the church out of the darkness of men's doctrines, and into the light of God's truth.
    There are many whop hold up proof, that the Waldenses' protest go back to the 4th and even the 3rd century, by the protesting against the doctrines of men! Even they began to call this church system the anti-christ! [JB) Please know this term in the Greek of the New testament this word is instead of and or in place of and not anti of against}

Note: Wycliffe was arrested and my Armed men taken to London England, but God spared him by taking his life! Yet some 40 years latter, they dig up his bones cursed him, and burned his bones to ashes, tossed then into the river. {Can it be said his ashes took God's over all the earth?}


1. The Rediscovery of Christ and His salvation. [Christ is THE central Figure in the Bible]
   From that time we have the phrases "Sola Christos", Sola Gratia" , Sola Scriptura" meaning Christ alone, Grace and  Saved by Grace alone, Scriptures and scriptures alone.
2. The discovery of the identity of the antichrist.

   The latter proved to be the "binding together", the message of protesting the man-made doctrines. The rediscovery of the sufficiency of christ rested on the "Word of God". "The Bible and the Bible alone," which provided the weapons of warfare and the discovery of the identity of the Antichrist united the Reformation in opposition to the Perceived, common enemy.

     Now, granted, they were many differences of doctrines, regarding Salvation, yes, But on the I.D. of the Antichrist, they were as one!

   There are three distinct sets of prophecies of this rise, character, deeds, and doom of Romanism. The first is found in the Book of Daniel, The Second  in the Epistles of John; and the Third, in the letters and the Apocalypse of John [Revelation] ; and none is complete in itself. It is only by the combing of these three that one receives a completed picture. Daniel's overview presents the POLITICAL CHARACTER,  and relations of Romanism.  The apostle Paul's foreview, on the other hand, gives the ECCLESIASTICAL CHARACTER AND RELATIONS OF THIS POWER. and John's Prophecies, both in Revelations 13 and 17, present the COMBINATION OF BOTH, fthe mutual relations of the Latin Church and Roman state.  "Romanism and the Reformation" P.11

     Daniel 7:8  "I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things."

     The Rule of Rome. We repeat, has never ceased. It was a secular pagan power for 5-6 centuries, and it has been an ecclesiastical power and apostate Christian power ever since. The rule of Rome revived in a new form, and was as real under the popes of the 13th century as it had been under the Caesars of the first! It was as oppressive, cruel, and bloody under Pope Innocent III, as it had been under Nero and Domitian. The reality was the same, though the forms had changed. The Caesars did not persecute the witnesses of Jesus more severely and bitterly that did the popes; Diocletian did not destroy the saints or oppose the gospel more that did the Inquisition of Papal days. Rome is one and of the same all through, both locally and morally." Note:
The Popes even have the very same titles as did the Caesars Pontifix Maximus {P.M. on both their statues] 

      The power symbolized by the proud, intelligent, and blasphemous, head-like "little horn" of the Roman beast, To this he devotes, on the contrary, the greater part of the prophecy:; and I must ask you now {as I ask you, today] carefully to note the various points that prove this horn to be a marvelous prophetic symbol or hieroglyph of the roman papacy, fitting it as one of Chub's keys fits the lock for which it was made, perfectly and in every part, while it refuses absolutely to adapt itself to any other power.  Ibid Romanism and the Reformation. 

Note: Please know that some 96% of the Christian world, today,  says he was wrong, yet ALL of the Reformers agreed, with with each other on this fact,  so who is wrong? Many of them, then, died for their convictions, how many are willing today? ?????. 

H. Grattan Guinness' book "Romanism and the Reformation" Harley House Roe F.  June 1 1887.

     "The Reformation of the sixteenth century, which gave birth to Protestantism, was based on scripture. It gave back to the world the Bible.
Note: [(JB) books were very expensive being written by hand, thus very rare, and the Bibles were kept away from all but the very rich and the churches kept them locked up] It, the Protestants translated the Holy Bible in peoples languages from the Latin, and taught the word, and exposed the errors and corruptions of Rome by the use of the Sword of the Spirit, the word of God. It Applied THE PROPHECIES, and accepted their particle guidance. Such Reformation work requires to be done afresh, today! WE, today, have suffered prophetic and anti-papal truth to be too much forgotten. This generation is dangerously latitudinarian-- grossly indifferent to truth and error on points which scripture is tremendously decided and absolutely clear."

    Now Professor Veith, will take us down into History, on topics no longer found in books, or even in new Encyclopedias. He found them in old must, moldy books, long out of print and forgotten by nearly all.Many of the books, that speak of these things, have been "cleansed" , cleaned-up to remove the sting, so to speak,  but History can't really be changed now can it? Writing a different story today does not change yesterday!
Now Mr. Guinness, was the last of the great Protesters, that generation's gone, non-existent, and sadly so is are their words and works! Did all of them suffer and die for nothing or was it all in error? Did Huss die by being burned alive, and millions of others, at the stake for nothing, or die for an human error?
    Ibid:  "Our reformed faith is thus endangered both from without and from within, and it can be defended only by a resolute return to the true witness borne by saints and martyrs of other days.. We must learn afresh from divine prophecy God's estimate of the character of the church of Rome if we would be moved afresh to be witnesses for Christ as against this great apostasy. 
    We feel constrained to renew the grand old Protest to which the world owes its modern acquisitions of Liberty, Knowledge, Peace and Prosperity.

Note: (JB) Look at all the nations yet today that are largely Catholic, and what is their economic levels? Mostly  the very rich and the very poor right? Just as it was during the Dark Ages and Feudalism!  WHY?  Then again The Vatican has more wealth than many of the world's largest corporations, WHY?  Jesus had only the clothes on His back, and not a place He called His own to lay His head!

Ibid cont: " We recognize it as a patent and undeniable fact, that the future of our race lies not with the Papists, but with the Protestants. Its leading Nations this day are not Papal Italy, Spain and Portugal, but Protestant Germany, England and America,." 

   The Veith crew interviewed many people in front of the "Radhouse" Townhouse of one German city,  Nuernberg, where Martin Luther preached. Over the two entry door, during his time they place very elaborate carvings, that depicted the prophecies of Daniel's  kingdom successions from Babylon to Rome , and they asked many people if they knew what their meanings were, none knew, not even a city's tour guide for THAT building! As two young men said we are Protestants, yes, and, Yes,  one owns a Bible but one just does not read it!


    ITS PLACE:   morphed into being from the body of the fourth empire [Pagan Rome]
THE PERIOD of its ORIGIN: soon after the division of the Roman territory into the Ten Kingdoms.

ITS NATURE:  different from the other kingdoms, though in some respects like them. It was a horn {denotes power], but with eyes and mount. I would be a kingdom like the rest, a monarchy; but its kings would be OVERSEERS  or Bishops and prophets.

  ITS MORAL CHARACTER: boastful, blasphemous; great words spoken against the Most High --
                                         GOD and Heaven!  Daniel 7:25.
Note: Today many teach that this Little horn came up out from the third beast, or Greece but the Bible itself tells us from the 4th beast and that's Rome!

ITS  LAWLESSNESS: It would claim {for itself] authority over times and laws {Dan. 7:25]

Its OPPOSITION to the Saints: it would be a persecuting power, and that for so long a period that it would wear out the saints of the Most High, who would be given into its  hand for a time.

ITS DURATION: "TIME, TIMES AND A HALF TIME" OR 1260 YEARS. [ Prophetic time 1 day=1 year.                             Numbers: 14:34-- Ezekiel 4:4-6.]

Its Doom:  it would suffer the loss of its dominion before it was itself destroyed: "They shall take away its dominion, to consume and destroy it to the end." [Daniel 7:26  "But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end."]
   From 539 AD to 1798 A.D when Napoleon captured the Vatican and took away all but 114 Acres of land, 538 + 1260 = 1798. This Pope died 3 Months latter. Deadly wound.

End of Part !

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